Oppo BDP-83 vs. PS3 (60 GB)

What are the differences between these blu-ray players?

A few that come to mind:

PS3:

Game Console
Built-in Wi-Fi
Internet interactive and streaming features through Sony in addition to BD-Live

BDP-83:

Plays DVD-A, HDCD
Decodes Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD HR
Analog 7.1 audio out
Slide out loading tray
Can be made all-region for DVD and Blu-ray and I don't know anyway to do that with the PS3


Both players do a lot for the money in my opinion.

Chris

A few that come to mind:

PS3:

Game Console
Built-in Wi-Fi
Internet interactive and streaming features through Sony in addition to BD-Live

BDP-83:

Plays DVD-A, HDCD
Decodes Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD HR
Analog 7.1 audio out
Slide out loading tray
Can be made all-region for DVD and Blu-ray and I don't know anyway to do that with the PS3
You forgot SACD

Both players do a lot for the money in my opinion.

Chris

I like the Oppo a bit better...

The PS3 is a great buy if you are serious about gaming. And you will not see much difference in video quality as a BD player, at least for most people.
But they are certainly aimed at different markets.

The Oppo does seem to do a better job at upscaling SD DVD's.

I would say the PS3 would only be an option if you want to have as few components as possible in your rack and be able to play games. At $299 it's an amazing value for everything it can do.

Chris also neglected to mention that the PS3 can decode all the newer HD Audio Codecs, the same as the Oppo can.

But really, I would only go with the PS3 if you think you may want to play games too. If that doesn't interest you, then I'd go with the Oppo.






P.S. I really thought this thread had been started by someone else. :lol:

You forgot SACD

Indeed, except that strictly speaking it's not a difference: both the 60GB PS3 and the Oppo play SACD.

Indeed, except that strictly speaking it's not a difference: both the 60GB PS3 and the Oppo play SACD.

Yes and both do a lot of the same things. He asked for differences and I am sure I forgot quite a few. I have the original 80GB version but I think the features are the same.

Chris

Indeed, except that strictly speaking it's not a difference: both the 60GB PS3 and the Oppo play SACD.

Yes, but it's going to be a bit more difficult to get your hands on a Launch 60GB model of the PS3 seeings how it's been discontinued for almost 2 years.

BDP-83:

Decodes Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD HR

Chris

Of course I meant bitstreams these codecs, both decode all Blu-ray audio codecs and only the BDP-83 outputs analog 7.1.

Chris

The Oppo does seem to do a better job at upscaling SD DVD's.

Yes, pretty much over any player we know. Also, the overall audio quality I would suspect is better. Again, many of these kind of differences would be lost on the masses.

I don't own any PS3 games, but if I buy one, I'll rent them. Does anyone here own both players?

I don't own any PS3 games, but if I buy one, I'll rent them. Does anyone here own both players?

I have mentioned in your threads I have the first 80GB PS3 and the Oppo BDP-83. The only difference I am aware of between my 80GB PS3 and the 60GB PS3 as far as features and performance is in how the consoles handle PS2 compatibility.

Chris

Oppo is one of the best BD player, it use Anchor Bay upscaling chip which is one of the best, you will enjoy your existing DVD collection a lot, i myself bought bought Pioneer player for its DVD upscaling capability and retired my PS3 for gaming use in game room. Oppo is also a very good CD, SACD and DVD Audio player, HT magzine has rated it as the best new HT product of 2009, PS3 is OK but has no comparison to Oppo BD player.

Oppo is one of the best BD player, it use Anchor Bay upscaling chip which is one of the best, you will enjoy your existing DVD collection a lot, i myself bought bought Pioneer player for its DVD upscaling capability and retired my PS3 for gaming use in game room. Oppo is also a very good CD, SACD and DVD Audio player, HT magzine has rated it as the best new HT product of 2009, PS3 is OK but has no comparison to Oppo BD player.

I own both and would say the PS3 is a lot better than OK. Certainly some users will prefer the Oppo BDP-83 but far from all and I doubt if a majority would. Having both is a requirement for me but if all I wanted was Blu-ray/SACD/DVD-A/DVD-V/CD, I would only own the BDP-83. If there has ever been a $300 media player that does as much as well as the PS3, I have never heard of it.

Chris

Indeed, except that strictly speaking it's not a difference: both the 60GB PS3 and the Oppo play SACD.

My PS3 does not play SACD, nothing except the CD layer. So are you sure of this. The OPPO, of course, does. My PS3 is the new one so maybe the old one did.

I think the newer PS3s stopped being able to play SACD discs, but I am not sure.

My PS3 does not play SACD, nothing except the CD layer. So are you sure of this. The OPPO, of course, does. My PS3 is the new one so maybe the old one did.

I think the newer PS3s stopped being able to play SACD discs, but I am not sure.

The 20GB, 60GB and first 80GB PS3 all played SACD but I don't believe any other models did. The OP asks for a comparison between the 60GB model and the Oppo BDP-83 and both play SACD.

Chris

I am the proud owner of a PS3 60 GB. The difference of $200 in price was the main reason for me.. and the fact that it won't go down in value given its ability for backwards compatibility. I hope $280 shipped with 2 controllers, cables (both composite and component), and a bluetooth remote was a good deal.

I would like analog audio outputs though.. and stellar DVD upconversion..

However, from the threads I've read the PS3 isn't too shabby with the new firmware updates at upconverting DVD to 1080p/24.. is the upconverting on par with the Oppo BDP-83?

Does the PS3 even have an internal D/A? It must in order to use the regular RCA outputs right...??? if so, is it worth using the supplied cables to feed my stereo amp, or just run the optical audio to my HK receiver and let it do the D/A converting?

There is nothing comparable to the Oppo in upconversion in it's price range, and even above.
The PS3 should certainly be competitive with other players near it's price. All players have improved in that regard.

If I had both players side by side, would I notice a difference on my TV? see sig.

If I had both players side by side, would I notice a difference on my TV? see sig.


I would say if you watch a lot of standard DVDs vs. BD, you would notice a difference over time. Nothing that will knock your socks off, but still enough to be noticed. I think this would hold true regardless of display type.

Even upconversion aside, if the combination of DVD-A, SACD playback, and excellent analog audio quality & options did not interest me, I would have no problem with a PS3, etc.

Excellent DVD-upconversion and analog audio does concern me.. We'll see if I am happy with the PS3 and go from there. Knowing me I'll want both.

Excellent DVD-upconversion and analog audio does concern me.. We'll see if I am happy with the PS3 and go from there. Knowing me I'll want both.

yeah, I know..we all want it all!!! ;)

you cannot compare the two. If sony had given the ps3 at least sacd
capability then maybe a comment. Oppo has them all in a corner

For Blu-ray playback, you most certainly can compare the 2.

For Blu-ray playback, you most certainly can compare the 2.

Sure, I can't tell any difference as far as Blu-ray video and audio quality. Load times are similar also.

Chris

Chris... been searching around... The newest update for the PS3 allows for 1080p/24 upconverting. :yippee:

Haven't been able to find much about what the PS3 uses for its D/A converting and how much signal loss there is when running analog audio with the factory cables. I can say that when using the factory composite A/V cables that it has some noise issues when connected to my 2-channel analog amp.

Its better when running digital through my H/K and then out to my other amp. (Marantz 2226)

Chris... been searching around... The newest update for the PS3 allows for 1080p/24 upconverting. :yippee:

Haven't been able to find much about what the PS3 uses for its D/A converting and how much signal loss there is when running analog audio with the factory cables. I can say that when using the factory composite A/V cables that it has some noise issues when connected to my 2-channel analog amp.

Its better when running digital through my H/K and then out to my other amp. (Marantz 2226)

I think the PS3 does a nice job with DVD and if I am not mistaken upconversion to 1080/24p has been possible for some time. I clearly prefer the Oppo player for DVD and I have other players that beat the PS3 for DVD as well but if I had to use the PS3 for DVD, I would happily do so. DVD doesn't look like Blu-ray no matter what you do so all of the fuss about getting the tiny percent better picture out of DVD isn't as important as many seem to make it.

Chris

DVD doesn't look like Blu-ray no matter what you do so all of the fuss about getting the tiny percent better picture out of DVD isn't as important as many seem to make it.

Chris

Unless someone has a large collection of DVD's that they don't intend on replacing with Blu-ray...

Unless someone has a large collection of DVD's that they don't intend on replacing with Blu-ray...

When Blu-ray starts playing 4000 x 2000 resolutions I'll be glad to give my Blu-ray collection away, I got to have the best! :D