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Recording HD from Component to HTPC PVR, then Burning to Blu-Ray

niknikktm
09-12-2009, 11:11 PM
I'm new here and I've been reading as many threads as possible without a search engine here to narrow them down. I've found threads discussing recording component video with devices like the Hauppage HD-PVR, but I have not yet seen anyone discuss using this with an HTPC set-up and being able to burn that HD PVR content to a Blu-ray disc. Does anyone know of this being done successfully?

I am getting ready to build an HTPC and my main focus is to be able to record HD content from my DirecTv receivers component video output to a capture device (preferably and internal card in my HTPC) and then being able to edit out commericals and burn in HD to a Blu-ray disc.

I would really love to hear from someone that has attempted this.

DexterMorgan
09-13-2009, 08:36 PM
right now I'm not aware of any internal devices that can capture component video for HTPC's. The only device I am aware of is the HD-PVR which you mentioned.

Once you have a DRM-Free media file, you can pretty much do whatever you want with it. You could use some BD Authoring software, like say Nero. I'm not to familiar with BD Authoring since I don't yet have a BD Burner.

rbinck
09-13-2009, 08:46 PM
I answered your other post on this question. The 1212 comes with software to do this with standard DVDs even. Of course to burn BD discs you will need a BD burner. The discs are way too expensive for me, so I went with hard disk storage.

niknikktm
09-14-2009, 01:49 PM
Thanks guys.

Rbinck, I replied to your response on your other thread. Just to reitterate here, I believe the Hauppage bundled software authors only to standard DVD and I am aiming for Blu-Ray. From what I can tell just by reading as much as I can around the internet, it would seem that I should be able to use a Blu-ray authoring software application to burn directly from the Hauppage h.264 recorded file.......I hope!

I can't believe nobody has tried this yet!!!

By the way, Blu-ray blank media is dropping in price quite rapidly now. A 25 pack of 4X Blu-ray discs goes for about $75.00 at Meritline. Thats a far cry from the 12 buck per disc average of about 8 months ago. I will go out on a very short and strong limb here and predict it will be VERY affordable within the next year. No reason not to convert.

I just purchased the HD-PVR from Newegg at $219.00 so I guess I'm starting my HTPC build as of now. My next purchase is a Silverstone LC-17 case, then I have to decide if I go with an intel core 2 duo set-up or do I step up to a core i7 build.

oblioman
09-14-2009, 02:18 PM
Thanks guys.

Rbinck, I replied to your response on your other thread. Just to reitterate here, I believe the Hauppage bundled software authors only to standard DVD and I am aiming for Blu-Ray. From what I can tell just by reading as much as I can around the internet, it would seem that I should be able to use a Blu-ray authoring software application to burn directly from the Hauppage h.264 recorded file.......I hope!

I can't believe nobody has tried this yet!!!

By the way, Blu-ray blank media is dropping in price quite rapidly now. A 25 pack of 4X Blu-ray discs goes for about $75.00 at Meritline. Thats a far cry from the 12 buck per disc average of about 8 months ago. I will go out on a very short and strong limb here and predict it will be VERY affordable within the next year. No reason not to convert.

I just purchased the HD-PVR from Newegg at $219.00 so I guess I'm starting my HTPC build as of now. My next purchase is a Silverstone LC-17 case, then I have to decide if I go with an intel core 2 duo set-up or do I step up to a core i7 build.

how about a 6 core Opteron...Intel is so yesterday. Only $2600 :D

however, the quad core phenom can be had for less than $200 bucks. To get the equivalent from the i7 you will be spending about $100 bucks more, for a slower processer, albiet with 2 more meg of L3 than the phenom.

niknikktm
09-15-2009, 06:42 PM
Faster and cheaper.......but what about power consumption and most importantly heat dissipation? With an HTPC build noise will be a major factor, and more heat requires more cooling which adds up to more noise. I have done a little research on mobo\cpu combinations over the last year or so, but it seems most articles usually focus so much on heat and noise that they skimp on performance. I've brought this issue up over at Toms Hardware and it seems the common opinion is that you really don't need much in the way of performance for an HTPC build. I don't agree. I think that if I am going to be streaming, encoding, and possibly even transcoding HD video I will likely have to find some common ground between the two.

My earlier choice was leaning towards a Core 2 Duo e6850 on a P45 (Gigabyte GA-EP45-DQ6) motherboard, but I read that the intel chipset had a problem properly rendering HD video and also it quickly became outdated, so I began looking at X48 or X58 solutions. Now that is starting to look like old hat compared to i7. I'm not really up on AMD CPU's but I guess a new investigation from scratch is what I will need to do at this point.

rbinck
09-15-2009, 07:44 PM
Thanks guys.

Rbinck, I replied to your response on your other thread. Just to reitterate here, I believe the Hauppage bundled software authors only to standard DVD and I am aiming for Blu-Ray. From what I can tell just by reading as much as I can around the internet, it would seem that I should be able to use a Blu-ray authoring software application to burn directly from the Hauppage h.264 recorded file.......I hope!

I can't believe nobody has tried this yet!!!

By the way, Blu-ray blank media is dropping in price quite rapidly now. A 25 pack of 4X Blu-ray discs goes for about $75.00 at Meritline. Thats a far cry from the 12 buck per disc average of about 8 months ago. I will go out on a very short and strong limb here and predict it will be VERY affordable within the next year. No reason not to convert.

I just purchased the HD-PVR from Newegg at $219.00 so I guess I'm starting my HTPC build as of now. My next purchase is a Silverstone LC-17 case, then I have to decide if I go with an intel core 2 duo set-up or do I step up to a core i7 build.That's why we ask people to not do multiple posts in multiple threads on the same subject.

The software authors so a Blu-ray player will play the disc. It does not do the actual burning. As far as I know it can be single density, double density DVD or Blu-ray. If you have a Blu-ray burner then that will be written. If you burn to a Blu-ray disc the only difference is a longer program will be able to be recorded on a single disc.

oblioman
09-20-2009, 08:09 AM
ruffrob has a neat little project going on over here - http://www.highdefforum.com/computers-htpcs/101262-sothink-hd-movie-maker.html
might be worth a look see.

niknikktm
10-10-2009, 01:00 AM
Different tact, and man that transcoding time of nearly 9 hours for a 42 minute video using an intel core two duo with 3GB of Ram is just ungodly!!! That just won't cut it. I think I will stick with the native codec for my H.264 recordings from the Hauppage. Transcoding is just a big pain in my opinion.

On another note, I just plunked down $259.00 for a Silverstone CW01 case. I was originally looking at the LC17 which is very similar, but the CW01 is a lot nicer with the added lure of being based on the old LC17 but having had the bugs worked out in the tweaking process. I'm only two components in with no internal hardware and I've already spent nearly 500 Bucks! I can see already that this isn't going to be a cheap build by any means. Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 Grand. That's some neighborhood!

Now I am looking into quiet power supplies and still aiming for an X58 MB for my next purchase. My plan is to have this thing finished and ready for use just in time to record the Vikings playoff victories.

lsilvest
10-10-2009, 06:21 AM
I have no real interest in blu-ray, but I've been editing mpeg2 recordings for a few years using Nero and burning to regular DVDs. My son doesn't get a chance to watch House, so I'll record OTA HD and put 3 shows on a DVD and it takes Nero a couple of hours to transcode and burn (and the quality is very good - looks OK on my 42" plasma - upconverted through my AVR. I record with BeyondTV which marks the commercials to make it easier to strip them when editing.

Although I haven't tried the blu-ray since the discs are way overpriced, Nero should handle it well, but Nero is CPU intensive and a memory hog.

My equipment is an Antec NX2480 case, AMD X2 5000 CPU, 4G Mem, ATI 2600XT video. System runs very cool and has 2 exhaust fans yet is barely audible.

Point I'm making is it can be done easily for a lot less than 2 grand. My cost was around $350 (got good deals from NewEgg and ZipZoomFly on parts). And Nero 9 (upgrade from 7) was free with rebates though Fry's.

Rick0725
10-10-2009, 07:42 PM
I am using TMPGenc Authoring works 4 for my Blu Ray and DVD Projects with my captures. Includes BR and DVD burning software,

http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/taw4.html

niknikktm
10-12-2009, 12:29 AM
I'm really shooting for a premium set-up. State of the art and all that. I've been able to record standard definition DVD's using Mpeg2 for a while now and really want to get HD recorded on Blu-Ray with the H.264 codec for top performance and video quality. Blu-Ray blank media is not all that expensive any longer. I think a lot of people are still under the misconception that it's still nearly the $20.00 per disc price it was at about 8 or 9 months ago. It's now right around 3 bucks per disc and has been dropping fast over the last 6 months or so. I will bet it's the norm sooner than you think. To put it in perspective, blank DVD's were 2 bucks a piece when I started recording with them 9 years ago, so it's really not much of a difference to me to start out with Blu-Ray at $2.50 to $3.00 per disc now. In fact, I am guessing that by the time I am finished with my build and actually up and running they will be somewhere right around $2.00 per disc at the 25 spindle price.

That TMPGenc looks real promising and the price is right. It's almost exactly what I am looking for except it is limited to Dolby 5.1 for audio. I was really hoping to find something that can achieve 7.1 or even Dolby True HD audio, but that may have to be a future upgrade down the road. Haven't gotten to that stage in the exploration process just yet. I'm currently focusing on power supplies and Mother Board\CPU ideas.

Ruffrob
10-12-2009, 08:24 AM
Less than two dollars....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Printable-25GB-2X-Blu-ray-Blank-Disc-20-pack-BD-R_W0QQitemZ230387471065QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Blank _Media?hash=item35a429d2d9

niknikktm
10-24-2009, 02:46 PM
Hey! There ya go! Already under 2 bucks per disc. Thanks Ruffrob. I am absolutely convinced that there is no reason to go with any other media. Blu-Ray is it for now. The future is here.

I just bought a Silverstone ST60F 600W power supply to go with my Silverstone case. Now I have to really study hard in order to decide whether to go with an X58 or P55 Platform for my motherboard. Any ideas out there? Any experiences yet?

I know they are both fairly new and probably considered a bit over qualifed for an HTPC build by most, but I'm of the opinion that if I'm going with a "premium" build, I should go with the latest tech. These are the latest platforms, but I am not looking at the highest buck, most extreme models. I have to take into account power consumption and heat dissipation.

Am I in virgin waters here? Has anyone else used either of these two platforms for an HTPC? Are there better options? Any input would be appreciated.

rbinck
10-24-2009, 04:43 PM
$2.40 with shipping, but still pretty cheap. If you didn't need to author the movie to be able to play in a Blu-ray player, the .m2ts files could be stored on these discs pretty economically. Probably be able to get at least 2 movies per disc.