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Originally Posted by Cygnus
That is true to an extent. You still need a good engine to make a decent game...or else games would still be using doom 1 engine 
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Are you saying the Doom 1 engine was poor?
You can have incredible level design without good visuals though. Just like controls are nothing to do with the level design. The multiplayer maps on Goldeneye are still IMO some of the finest designed levels ever conceived. That game could be remade on any current engine, give the visuals a lick of paint, and the level designs themselves could remain identical and you'd still have an incredible game IMO.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what Rare have done with Perfect Dark for the 360. Apparently it is 60fps with tidied up textures.