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Old 02-05-2008, 05:42 PM   #105
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Originally Posted by Ntruder View Post
The first is inhumane and I can't agree with it. (and its not the reason they come here)...
It's possible that it's not the primary reason that they travel here but, I'd be interested in seeing a study that indicates why they do... This article suggests some reasons without providing any hard data/numbers.
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Originally Posted by Center for Immigration Studies
...The United States affords a stable political system, a legal system based on the rule of law, broad individual liberty and economic opportunity, a sound economy, and generous government welfare entitlements, in addition to extremely generous private charity. America is relatively free of public corruption and offers a safe, secure place to live. By comparison to many places, would-be immigrants may view the United States as a land of vast wealth where the streets are seemingly paved with 14-karat gold...
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...The second is all that is required to stop the illegal immigration problem. Enforce our laws: crack down on businesses who are paying illegals less than minimum wage. And I mean really enforce it. Like no explosives on an airplane enforcement. If businesses aren't allowed to play slave wages without consequence, there is no reason to hire an illegal immigrant over an American citizen. If businesses aren't hiring undocumented workers, the demand for slave labor in our country evaporates. If the demand is gone, so goes the supply of undocumented workers. Problem solved. Nobody deported, nobody denied basic health services in the case of an emergency
Here's a draft of what you're suggesting. As a municipal ordinance, it didn't hold up well under Federal scrutiny, though. Washington got a bit uppity about being "usurped", plus, there were some aspects of it that prompted the response it got, perhaps rightfully so. Interestingly, the Hazelton legislation created quite a bit of controversy throughout the state of PA, and solidified the mayor's position for a Congressional run.

BTW, I'm using a state specific example only to illustrate a point, not trying to derail the discussion
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I guess the teacher in me and my belief in a Constructivist Socratic approach to education, leads me to constantly ask open ended questions in order to stimulate debate.
Seems like we have something else in common. I also appreciate a shared learning mode. Certainly doesn't work in all instances but, when it does, can deliver excellent results.
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