The 3DTV Early Adopter Content Thread

[TwoPlusTwo]

Originally Posted by bauerjj10

I will give the 3d bluray promotion a shot and see if they bite.

Anybody have any dates on when certain PS3 games will get 3D updates?
Im a huge shooter fan and I know that DICE released a 3d patch for Bad Company 2 for the PC, I hope they are working on one for PS3.

AFAIK the only disc-based 3D game with a confirmed release date is Gran Turismo 5, which releases November 2nd.

The Sly Collection (Sly 3 is playable in 3D) is coming in November as well, though I have not seen an exact date yet.

Killzone 3 is supposed to be getting an exact February 2011 date soon. Btw I have read that playing Killzone 3 in 3D is beyond incredible.

Many people are waiting on exact dates for many games...though what is sure is that over the next year there will be quite a few 3D PS3 games.

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by TwoPlusTwo

Look at all those 3D movies coming out...and more than likely, most if not pretty much all of them will eventually see a home 3D BD version, right?

IMO, the 3D films of 2011 will get a D/D release on 3D BD which isn't going to happen with the 2010 films

Again thanks for the info Lee; you are truly the 3D guru around here.

Thanks!

[PFC5]

Lee, any news on whether the 3D movies will be priced the same as the 2D versions? The movie that comes in the Samsung "3D kit" would be priced at $50.00 after subtracting the cost of the glasses that come in the kit.

[TwoPlusTwo]

Originally Posted by PFC5

Lee, any news on whether the 3D movies will be priced the same as the 2D versions? The movie that comes in the Samsung "3D kit" would be priced at $50.00 after subtracting the cost of the glasses that come in the kit.

The one that I did purchase set me back around thirty bucks:

http://www.amazon.com/Cloudy-Chance-...9319410&sr=1-1

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by PFC5

Lee, any news on whether the 3D movies will be priced the same as the 2D versions? The movie that comes in the Samsung "3D kit" would be priced at $50.00 after subtracting the cost of the glasses that come in the kit.

The MSRP for the Disney release of A CHRISTMAS CAROL is $49.99 and you get one of each:

3DBD
BD
DVD
Digital Copy

Sony's Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs (one disc) has an MSRP of $39.99 and Amazon is selling it for $27.99:

http://www.amazon.com/Cloudy-Chance-...9329400&sr=8-3

[PFC5]

Hmmm. So at least early on, it appears movies could cost as much as about 20+% more with a 3D version. Lets hope the prices come down to a closer parity as the 3D format progresses.

[TwoPlusTwo]

Originally Posted by PFC5

Hmmm. So at least early on, it appears movies could cost as much as about 20+% more with a 3D version. Lets hope the prices come down to a closer parity as the 3D format progresses.

Given the option to pay regular price for the regular version or 20% more for the 3D version, I'd pay the 20% 3D premium...at least for all three films I've viewed so far...

[PFC5]

Originally Posted by TwoPlusTwo

Given the option to pay regular price for the regular version or 20% more for the 3D version, I'd pay the 20% 3D premium...at least for all three films I've viewed so far...

But how will you know which 3D movie is worth the extra money and which ones are not?

So to add insult to injury, after you pay the long dollar for a 3DTV, pay 2-3x for a 3D BD player over essentially the same model without 3D support, and you have to pay $150.00+ per pair of glasses so for a family of five it costs you $750.00+ for glasses that only work with that brand of 3D display, you now have to pay an extra 20% for the movies too?

I think with all these extra costs that 2010 will NOT be the year people even consider 3DTV seriously. I doubt 2011 will be either unless they get the glasses cost down, make them universal, and limit the 3D movie premium to about 5% and get much more content out there.

Definitely a rich man's format for a while I think unfortunately.

[TwoPlusTwo]

Originally Posted by PFC5

But how will you know which 3D movie is worth the extra money and which ones are not?

So to add insult to injury, after you pay the long dollar for a 3DTV, pay 2-3x for a 3D BD player over essentially the same model without 3D support, and you have to pay $150.00+ per pair of glasses so for a family of five it costs you $750.00+ for glasses that only work with that brand of 3D display, you now have to pay an extra 20% for the movies too?

I think with all these extra costs that 2010 will NOT be the year people even consider 3DTV seriously. I doubt 2011 will be either unless they get the glasses cost down, make them universal, and limit the 3D movie premium to about 5% and get much more content out there.

Definitely a rich man's format for a while I think unfortunately.

I am not rich.

The fact that I have no children does give me a bit more disposable income than people with children, though...I will admit that.

And 20% of the cost of a Blu-ray is not a ton of money.

I would like the movie premium to go down (I like your 5% number), and think that it will. There is no 3D premium for PS3 games or DirecTV atm, btw..

If you think that I bought the VT25 solely for the 3D, btw, you are extremely badly wrong. It was the ideal set for my "convert the guest bedroom into a gameroom" project. It would have still been my choice even if it didn't do 3D. It would have been cheaper, and yes I understand that I paid a premium for it being 3D-ready, but it's still a great set regardless.

It should be pointed out that you can buy a 3DTV and wait for content to buy your 3D BD player and extra glasses, btw. Those things will get cheaper in the future, and your 3DTV serves you well as an HDTV today.

Yes, I went ahead and bought a 3D BD player and an extra set of glasses for my girlfriend, but I could have waited. I didn't want to because I wanted to go ahead and enjoy the limited 3D content available right off the bat, but I could have waited...

I agree that 2010 is not the "year of the 3DTV" and you are probably right that 2011 isn't either.

However, if the industry follows the VT25 trend...making really fantastic sets 3D-capable, then more and more people will end up with 3DTVs. The VT25 is appealing even if you absolutely don't want 3D at all...

[PFC5]

I know the VT series is fantastic as a strictly 2D HDTV as well. I was just pointing out that they are asking a lot of additional money to actually watch it in 3D.

Probably the most ridiculous part is that they did not decide on a "standard" for how the 3D glasses communicate/sync with the displays. That means that once you go 3D you are stuck with that brand unless you want to take the hit on the cost of the 3D glasses you bought to change brands down the round.

I know they will likely get cheaper (they better for 3D to take off) and there is supposed to be 3rd party universal glasses coming later (but initially at a higher cost than the brand specific glasses currently available), but they need to be 1. Universal to all brands, and 2. Be much cheaper to buy for families.

Remember that if you put in a 3D movie or try to watch a 3D sports event on cable/sat, that means EVERYONE who is watching will need glasses or else they cannot watch without it being blurry or you do not watch it in 3D.

FOr me, that means at $150.00 each, I would have to pay for 5-7 glasses with 5 being the minimum and assuming two people would not be watching at any given time. That puts the cost of just the glasses at between $750.00-1,050.00.

That is a lot of money for a proprietary comm link design that only works with that brand, besides being as much as many good HDTVs cost alone too. This is one of the reasons I am waiting to upgrade my HDTV until next year. If they do not get the price of the glasses down significantly AND get them universal with a universal comm link, I may just go with a 2DTV again.

Many people are put off just by needing glasses, but that doesn't bother me as I know the tech isn't there yet for 1080p 3D without them, but to make them proprietary AND so expensive is going to be a deal breaker for many, so they need to fix this soon IMO.

[Psychopathic]

I am very interested in this. 3D PS3 gaming is off the hook!

[bicker]

Originally Posted by PFC5

But how will you know which 3D movie is worth the extra money and which ones are not?

Indeed, but that applies in consumer purchasing, no matter what: How will you know anything is worth extra money that may be charged for it? For most things, you can get a rough idea of the outliers (definitely is worth it or definitely is not worth it) by watching the early reviews. For other things, it is a risk. If you can afford a television of this quality, then you can afford to take such risks, and accept the times when the risk doesn't pay off.

Originally Posted by PFC5

Definitely a rich man's format for a while I think unfortunately.

A "rich man's" format, for a "rich man's" electronic device. Poorer folks are not going to be buying the top-quality televisions.

[bicker]

Originally Posted by TwoPlusTwo

I am not rich.

Sorry, friend, but if you're buying top quality televisions new, then you're rich, by definition, at least in this context. "Rich" compared to the rest of television viewers.

We're giving my wife's cousin our old (2006) DLP. They're coming to pick it up this afternoon. That's how many not-rich people get big screen televisions.

Originally Posted by TwoPlusTwo

The fact that I have no children does give me a bit more disposable income than people with children, though...I will admit that.

And so the threshold for determining "rich-ness" is much lower for you. However, that's not even the issue. Talking about "rich-ness" in terms of how much money people have is useless. A person with a high income could save or invest 99.9% of the money, and you'd be living like a pauper.

When talking about this stuff, what matters is how much you spend on things, not how much money you have to spend.

Originally Posted by TwoPlusTwo

However, if the industry follows the VT25 trend...making really fantastic sets 3D-capable, then more and more people will end up with 3DTVs.

And perhaps my wife's cousin will have one four or five years from now.

[DTV TiVo Dealer]

bicker, my business caters to two groups of clients; the ultra rich and audio/videophiles. Many of the audio/videophiles are far from what anyone would consider rich, but they reach for the very best and will save-up till they aquire enough money to get what they want.

Enjoy!

-Robert

[TwoPlusTwo]

Originally Posted by bicker

Sorry, friend, but if you're buying top quality televisions new, then you're rich, by definition, at least in this context. "Rich" compared to the rest of television viewers.

I am not rich just because I decided to save up and spend my hard-earned money on a VT25. Like DTV TiVo Dealer said, for some of us home entertainment is our hobby and that's how we choose to spend our money. Some people like cars, others motorcycles...I like home entertainment.

Suppose this was an amateur astronomy forum, and you owned a nice telescope, and I just assumed that you were rich solely on the fact that you bought a high-end telescope...