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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard
The truth is crap? Your idiotic statement that BD+ will turn Blu-ray players into bricks is what? Chinese players no more win the war for HD DVD than PS3 game consoles won the war for Blu-ray despite your proclamation that the purchasers of the Chinese players will buy them for 100% HD DVD playback. A pretty funny prediction, but that was nothing new for you.
Chris
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Chris why are you such an ass?
So this is the truth?
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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard
There is certainly no way it could be looking down, we know it can't be heading any lower. When you are in last place, there is no place to look but up.
Chris
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So there is no where but up for HD DVD to go? This is BS for BOTH formats. Everyone knows you hate HD DVD and want BD to win. Everyone knows you do not like much content for EITHER format right now but you say you own both. WHY do you own both if you do not like HD DVD and neither has much going for it?
Just for the record, here is a definition of ThreadCrapping/ThreadJacking:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...hread+crapping
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...Thread+Jacking
"Thread Jacking:
Taking over a thread on a message board by taking a part of the original posted topic, twisting it around and "hijacking" the thread itself. What happens is that the original content contained in the post becomes moot and whatever the "Thread Jacker" has manipulated the content to be becomes the new content thereby "hijacking" the original intent of post. People now respond to the "thread jacker's" input and the that becomes the focus of the tread."
So what you did was more "ThreadJacking" than "ThreadCrapping". Either way you seem to be determined to ruin every thread that has ANY positive news for HD DVD. WHY?
Now WHO said that the cheap Chinese HD DVD players would be used ONLY 100% for HD DVD playback? Show me and everyone else WHERE
"I" posted this as you stated as my "proclamation". This just shows everyone that you are full of BS.
There you go putting words in peoples' mouths again. To slant the point from what was said. I always have played up the fantastic upscaling of the HD DVD players as another reason to buy them over just an upscaler for a little more money over a good upscaler. We do not know if the Chinese HD DVD players will be able to do with SD DVDs and how good they will be at upscaling so I do not mention it with these unknown (so far) players.
Here is a link with a quote about BD+ with hacked players:
http://www.videobusiness.com/article...+%2F+Suppliers
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Also, BD+ can detect tampering to a player, refusing to play once any manipulation to hardware is discovered.
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Here are more links:
http://businessweek.com/technology/c...526_680075.htm
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STRANGLEHOLD ON CONTENT. Even more extreme is a scheme called BD+ that deals with the problem of what to do when someone cracks the encryption scheme. The players can automatically download new crypto if the old one is broken. But there's an ominous feature buried in this so-called protection mechanism: If a particular brand of player is cryptographically "compromised," the studio can remotely disable all of the affected players. In other words, if some hacker halfway across the globe cracks Sony's software, Sony can shut down my DVD player across the Net.
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http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/11/t...were-about-us/
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Perhaps the scariest aspect of Blu-ray�s latest salvo is the use of BD+. Similar in concept to DirecTV�s piracy countermeasures, BD+ is Blu-ray�s method of responding to hacked machines. BD+ allows Blu-ray to both a) change the security system on a device and b) lock out hacked machines.
For instance, let�s assume that a device is hacked (a fair assumption). BD+ would allow Blu-ray to essentially render the hacked devices useless. OK � that�s a concept we�ve heard before. Key revocation is nothing new.
The difference is that BD+ can also be used to get the disabled machines back up and running (back in a protected state of course). At this point you might be wondering why that�s bad. It�s a fair question. After all, it�s designed to help you. The problem is that it might just be the added comfort Blu-ray needs to pull the trigger and disable the device in the first place.
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This should be enough even for you CHris but here is ONE MORE:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1846092,00.asp
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The BD+ mechanism, meanwhile, will serve as a counter to attacks like DeCSS, which stripped the DVD player of its protections and allowed content to be copied and posted on the Internet. Since the DVD player code was read-only, "once the DVD was hacked, that was it," Gordon said.
BD+ was modeled after the mechanisms used by BSkyB and other DBS providers, which use a concept called "renewability" to reinstate the content protection schemes with updated code. If a hack is published, a fix will be circulated until a crack for the fix is published -- a never-ending cycle, but one that will allow studios and device makers to remain in business, Setos said. It is based upon the concept of Self-Protecting Digital Content, authored by Cryptographics Research Inc., he said.
"Everything can be hacked, and so it's handy to renew the system," Setos said.
If an exploit is published for a particular player, that player may be "turned off," or disabled, according to Setos, a process known as "revocation". He described a scenario where an exploit was published for a particular model of player. The player provider would then be obligated to update the player via BD+, while the serial number of an actual hacked machine could be detected and disabled.
"It detects if the product is properly operating," Setos said. "If it's a hijacked one, it will refuse to play."
If an exploit was released into the wild, Setos said the Blu-Ray content-protection scheme would identify and fix just those players that could be modified, and disable those that had been tampered with. How the player will be properly detected was not disclosed, however.
"We don't expect there to be any false positives," Setos said, when asked about the possibility for error.
"The consumer experience is paramount," Setos added. "If you turn off or otherwise revoke the working player, it's not a good thing."
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