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Cornbread · 05-19-2006, 08:01 AM

strawberry said: Third- You HD-DVD cheerleaders need to stop acting like BR is vaporware.

Answer: I never said it was vapor ware, it is just a technology that hasn't been released to the public, many of the early claims of Blue Ray are now proving false, so instead of comparing what is right now to what might be, we need to wait to see the finished product before we make outlandish claims. For example at launch BR will only be able to produce single layer 25 GB discs compared to HD-DVDs dual layer 30GB discs.

This is slanted. BR will use MPG2 in the short term because they don't have to deal with the space crunch that HD-DVD does. H.264 is part of the BR spec, and it will be utilized when necessary down the road. It's not tricky business- it's just a codec.

Answer: Again, BR Will use inferior MPEG 2 at launch, who knows what the future holds, so stop pretending to know.

Foolishness. Are you aware of anyone having issues playing standard DVD's on a PC due to a lack of native Windows support in the last 5 years?

Answer: Start thinking outside the box, HD-DVDs and BR are not like DVDs it is a very different technology. The past is not always an indication of the future. Plus Microsoft supported the DVD enabling compatibility, all inbedded in their operating system. Microsoft will not be supporting Blue Ray.

Strawberry said: Just as it has been with standard DVD's- install a player. That's it. You're done. The only "advantage" that you'll have with HD-DVD is that you can watch your movies using WMP11, if you hate yourself and want to die, I suppose. Or, you can do what people have been doing for years, and watch your movies using a piece of actual DVD playback software like PowerDVD or WinDVD- both of which will offer BR as well as HD-DVD playback.[quote]

Answer: There is no guarantee at this point that PowerDVD or WinDVD will be licensed to make an HD-DVD player. Since Microsoft and Toshiba are in bed together we might never see third party players. Vista will include an HD-DVD player and with BR, hardware manufacturers and therefore consumers will have to pay extra to have a 3rd party player. That is the reason HP has now decided to use HD-DVD drives.

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Cornbread High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 265	strawberry said: Third- You HD-DVD cheerleaders need to stop acting like BR is vaporware. Answer: I never said it was vapor ware, it is just a technology that hasn't been released to the public, many of the early claims of Blue Ray are now proving false, so instead of comparing what is right now to what might be, we need to wait to see the finished product before we make outlandish claims. For example at launch BR will only be able to produce single layer 25 GB discs compared to HD-DVDs dual layer 30GB discs. This is slanted. BR will use MPG2 in the *short term* because they don't have to deal with the space crunch that HD-DVD does. H.264 is part of the BR spec, and it *will* be utilized when necessary down the road. It's not tricky business- it's just a codec. Answer: Again, BR Will use inferior MPEG 2 at launch, who knows what the future holds, so stop pretending to know. Foolishness. Are you aware of anyone having issues playing standard DVD's on a PC due to a lack of native Windows support in the last 5 years? Answer: Start thinking outside the box, HD-DVDs and BR are not like DVDs it is a very different technology. The past is not always an indication of the future. Plus Microsoft supported the DVD enabling compatibility, all inbedded in their operating system. Microsoft will not be supporting Blue Ray. Strawberry said: Just as it has been with standard DVD's- install a player. That's it. You're done. The only "advantage" that you'll have with HD-DVD is that you can watch your movies using WMP11, if you hate yourself and want to die, I suppose. Or, you can do what people have been doing for years, and watch your movies using a piece of *actual DVD playback software* like PowerDVD or WinDVD- both of which will offer BR as well as HD-DVD playback.[quote] Answer: There is no guarantee at this point that PowerDVD or WinDVD will be licensed to make an HD-DVD player. Since Microsoft and Toshiba are in bed together we might never see third party players. Vista will include an HD-DVD player and with BR, hardware manufacturers and therefore consumers will have to pay extra to have a 3rd party player. That is the reason HP has now decided to use HD-DVD drives. Last edited by Cornbread; 05-19-2006 at 08:10 AM.